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  DeYoung Alumni ?

  by Stacey in

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  did anyone here attend deyoung school in san jose, ca?

  it was an all witness school.

  just curious!

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  I had heard of an all witness school but never ever met anyone who went there! PLEASE DO TELL how it was there!!! Curious here!

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  Another JW cong story... it's not adultery or fornication if...

  by out of the box in

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  the quote below prompted me to post my stories.

  the other being: experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information from the cong.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95518/1.ashxfrom dorayakii: to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

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  rebel8, It would seem that way when you consider that women tell women these stories. But I am sure that there are just as many stories told by men to men! People 'flirt' with each other every day. Be it in a smile, or kind words sometimes said in a playful way. If the other person takes it further and so forth... it takes TWO to tango!

  But, when the elders review the cases they look at the side of the one who is contributing and will cause the least amount of 'shock and awe' I am sure when the news gets out. I am not saying this is right, but like other posters have said on this board, they choose on the side for the organization, what will 'look' like the least damage control. JWs MUST know by now that the org is more important than any ONE individual! You lose your identity when you go into it. You no longer have ANY rights!

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  Way back in time. Did anyone attend Assembly that Michael Jackson went to?

  by out of the box in

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  we had some of the cong go all the way to california to attend the same assembly that they knew michael jackson would attend!

  when i made a comment about how they were going just to get a glimpse of him.

  that was not received too well.

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  This would have been in the 70's. We had some of the cong go all the way to California to attend the same Assembly that they knew Michael Jackson would attend! When I made a comment about how they were going just to get a glimpse of him. That was not received too well. Oh well! He was talked about (by a few MS musicians) in our cong at that time like he was annointed or something! Too bad they didn't know about the 'little kid' thing back then!

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  Your scariest or funniest 'out in service' stories!

  by out of the box in

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  here goes my stories: .

  she looked up at all those stairs to the third floor!

  she said she would do the first floor.

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  I have enjoyed reading all these great stories! Thanks for sharing!

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  Another JW cong story... it's not adultery or fornication if...

  by out of the box in

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  the quote below prompted me to post my stories.

  the other being: experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information from the cong.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95518/1.ashxfrom dorayakii: to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

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  I was afraid to post this story, well not afraid actually, but it had stayed inside of me for so long, it felt 'dirty' or something when it came out.

  Hellrider, yes he was like a brat running to the elders first. He had her totally vamboozeled! I told her she did a pretty stupid thing giving in to someone like that and married too! Of course he was handsome and so popular and she was just a single mom who had been looked down on for a long time and he used this to elevate her to his special friend. He would go to her house, tap on the door late at night and cry on her shoulder about how misunderstood he was and how he was planning a divorce and be with her. I told my ole friend that 'that was the oldest lie in the book'!!! And you were right, he knew how to escape being DF'd.

  BluesBrother and Bumble Bee, I think you are right, since I was not there when it all came out, I assume that she would not give the details or say she was sorry. I think at the time she must have told them she loved him and they thought that she would not stop seeing him. She defied them by not telling all the details that they wanted to hear. Of course the details he gave were different and that she had called him over etc. In any case he was totally crying and repentant and his wife forgiving him right away helped him a lot. The wife wanted the girl DF'd and she stated so. She said she could not go to a cong where that girl was. They ended up moving away soon after that anyway.

  Finally Free, yes, her image was now that of a 'husband' hunter and taker. His was that of a poor defensless guy who fell for her charm. They said she was jealous of what they had and wanted it for herself.

  Well, I can't say anything to her because I do not see her anymore, nor do I have access to her phone number or... way to reach her. I hope she is doing OK. I do know she is not a JW anymore.

  Thanks for your replies. I feel better after telling that story, it was good to let it out.

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  Another JW cong story... it's not adultery or fornication if...

  by out of the box in

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  the quote below prompted me to post my stories.

  the other being: experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information from the cong.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95518/1.ashxfrom dorayakii: to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

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  Well, here is the second story I said I would post. The quote below prompted me to post my stories. The other being: Experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information from the cong. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95518/1.ashx

  from dorayakii: To me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how Jesus formed Christianity. However, many people don't see that perspective, because they are not in a position of imtimacy with the leaders of the organisation. Maybe it's because my father is a particularly cold and legalistic elder that i've been exposed to so much of the society's "dirty linin". This insight into the central core of the organisation was like opening a box and seeing with my own eyes what i already knew was there.

  I had been through some tough times that I have posted here with the JWs and made my exit myself from the madness and confusion when a friend/bible study of mine who had become baptised started to go wayward herself. She was reacting in a way that was incredible even for her! She had a child when she was 16 and I was the foster parent of her child until she was of age and knew how to care for her daughter herself and we remained friends. She followed me into the JWs. She was now missing meetings and I figured she was following me starting to leave. I discussed this with her and she began to cry. She told me the folowing story. And she had a letter from the brother for me to read.

  She was crying so uncontrolably and explaining to me that she was doomed and that she was being told to move away to another cong. by the elders!!! She had had something to drink (alcohol) and was trying to tell me everything at once it was not easy for her to tell me that she thought she was a looser! I said 'what'??? Finally the story came out of her.

  She had become close to this brother, he was new in the cong. because he had moved here from California with his wife and they were going to have a baby. They were originally from England. Her mother had moved here with them as well. This gal friend of mine had babysat and been so close to them she practically lived there helping them out. This new couple were charasmatic for sure. Attractive people with worldly travels and stories to tell of famous people they had partied with and wore the right clothes and were 'in' they appeared to have money as well. Everyone loved them. I liked them myself, especially the wife.

  Well, this friend of mine told me that she had become intimate with the husband! I said 'what'? She said they had made out and that he would come to her apartment and seek her out and they would take off their clothes (eventually, it took time to get to this phase) and he would lie down on top of her and release himself between her legs. I had to tell you this because you won't believe what was said of this later on. I told her to STOP this, she said she had. I asked her if she had gone to the elders, she said, that she told him that she was going to go to the elders and was feeling so used and her conscience was bothering her. He told her she was right, they should stop and told her to wait until the next morning and organize her thoughts and pray all night.

  
  Well, that night while she was home gathering herself together, he ran right to the elders to tell his side of the story. He wrote her a letter telling her how the elders would not believe her but him. I read this letter and could not believe how aragant he was! After all he was going out in service, had a nice wife with a new baby and she was a single mom (never married, had a baby out of wedlock) and who would believe her, who would choose her over him? She had seduced him! She did not want me to to talk to anyone for her, but felt stronger knowing I knew her side of things. We talked for hours till she gained some strength. I wanted that letter to show the elders so that he could not fool them. She said 'no'. She thought Jah would take care of him, his actions will come back to him she said. I told her to show the letter to anyone who requested a meeting with her. She didn't do it she felt so humiliated.

  The elders met with her and him and DFd her. He was repremanded and told not to do this again, but it was his weakness since the elders KNEW he HAD done it before more than once!!! Since his wife forgave him, he was OK. He was allowed to continue with a warning and probably doing this over and over with young 'weak' women JW or not JW! The elders told my friend that 'because he did not go inside her he did not commit fornication, nor did he actually cheat on his wife'!!! But she knew better! She was alone and a single mom and went after his affections! I found this out later on when her and I talked about the results of all that happened. Her and I were both really OUT of the org by this time. That 'adventurous' couple moved away from Mass. to Nevada somewhere and who knows where else. He was in a band and they were around music a lot. I found out later that they moved around a lot, I wonder why?

  Why I wrote this is because I have read some of your posts here and a few statements that made me think that if someone read this and something like this or close to it was happening to you, please stop and stay by yourself for a little while and really think over what is happening to your life and save yourself! Find the strength to defend your rights and yourself.

  My old friend ended up in lots of trouble before settling down away from the JWs and out in the world. I no longer hear from her. I have no idea what happened to the 'so called brother'. I should type his name in case he is in a cong. you know of, hummm.

  You see it was EASY for me to leave the JWs and to STAY away!!! All I had to do was look around me!

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  What would you do?

  by schne_belly in

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  hello my dear fellow jwd members, i need your in put....please.

  since my husband i my recent fading process, we've received a few "love bombing" letters from some in our old congregation.. i've received 2 from an old "friend" whom i grew up with and went to school with.

  we've drifted apart years ago, to the point where she wouldn't even look at me at the hall---she's a pionner, husband a ministerial servant.

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  schne_belly,

  Even if you DID go back for a while, they would have a feather in their cap and that is all. The fact that you even thought of leaving and stayed away means that you are less spiritual then they are. So, you would not be in their click of strength of JWdom. You will eventually be shunned by some and 'assigned' by the elders to some for encouragement. Do you want to be a project for some to earn their hours or do you want a LIFE? You are already dangerous, you have thought for yourself! You have a mind and are 'waking up'. Do you think that all in the cong. will be able to associate with you freely? I think not. Cancer spreads and that is how you will become to them.

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  Miss Peaches - The Story (warning its long)

  by misspeaches in

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  i was born into a family that didn't attend church.

  my mother had been raised a catholic and was quite fanatical about it until puberty hit and she discovered boys.

  dad's family were christian but non-practicing.

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  Miss Peaches, G'day! Like ezekiel3 said, now you are truely 'awake'. I am glad you shared your story! I could relate to it as I read it. You really had a hard time finding solid ground! JWs think they are on solid ground, but their 'ground' moves around and keeps them moving with no chance to settle in a world that is doomed. Now when I look back, being a JW was like being on a ship with sometimes very murky rough water!

  Welcome to the board and I am glad you spoke up! Looking forward to reading your posts, and dear, leave the drugs too! You don't need anything else to turn you into another follower. Try just being still and quiet for a while. Your mind will quiet down and your life become more stable without influence or stimulants. True love does not exist with drugs so how do you know 'he is the one' unless you experience him without being high of any kind? And if you want to get married and have children the drugs gotta go hun! (My husband's mom is from Australia) out of the box
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  long years of brainwashing finally come to an end.....

  by girl_interrupted in

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  hi everyone, i'm new here......basically, i found this website a couple of weeks ago when i was in dire need of some like-minded souls who had felt screwed up about the jw's.

  from about the age of four/five, my parents and i were involved in the organisation, and all three of us are stil messed up because of it.....we are no longer involved in it, but it took quite a few years before my parents found the strength to leave.

  to begin with, i was quite a zealous jw, was baptised at twelve and disfellowshipped at fourteen, because as i got older i began to grow ''weak in the truth'' as people so kindly described me!

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  jmusic,

  I'm going to delete this account right after this posting, so I won't be checking any replies or messages, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on the subject.

  Is there someone that will check your computer to see what you have done? Is that why you must delete traces of that post? That does not seem like you are secure in your suroundings. I detect a bit of fear in you of being caught having your own ideas.

  Obviously, no spirtually strong witness would be posting on this site.

  I guess that you are neither in nor out at times. I think you are on the fence. How can that be a life? Too bad you 'won't be checking any replies or messages', because you need to talk things out more! We need to hear YOUR story!

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  opps, wrong button lol here it is

  by dedpoet in

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  last week was the 13th anniversary of my baptism into the borg, and i celebrated it by writing a letter of disassociation to the uk hq.

  this has been acknowledged, and i am out of the wt!

  the dubs who came round to confirm it commented on the date, so i told them it was quite deliberate, kind of rounds things off nicely, don't you think?

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  dedpoet, I am so impressed! You did this with a clear head too! And no wishy washy, just straight to it! WOW!

  Congratulations!

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